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About

Daniel Handler is the author of the brilliant and hilarious novels The Basic Eight, Watch Your Mouth and Adverbs. He sometimes plays the accordion for The Magnetic Fields. He also wrote the murder mystery The Composer Is Dead, which he originally performed with the San Francisco Symphony. Under the nom de guerre of Lemony Snicket, he penned a series of children's books about hapless orphans. Mr. Handler spent a number of years in New York, where he worked as an assistant to a literary agent and drank a lot of bourbon. He is presently quite successful. Coincidence? We think not.

You've said that you work simultaneously on fiction for children and adults. Is it challenging moving between voices? Did you find the Baudelaires creeping into your other work? Or, conversely, did you ever find yourself accidentally sending them on absinthe-fueled murder sprees?

As far as I can tell my fiction for adults and for children is driven by the same voice: unreliable, woolgathery, self-lacerating and romantic in spite of itself. I worry more about this creeping into my real life than anything else.

Living as a broke fiction writer in New York: totally overrated, or deeply formative?

Both, absolutely. I only survived those years by convincing myself that they would look glamorous and bohemian in retrospect. Sometimes they do but not often enough.

Your first novel was rejected thirty-seven times, according to your Wikipedia entry (in retrospect, the idea that The Basic Eight is "too dark" seems almost quaint). We wouldn't have rejected it, because it's awesome. Anyway, what kept you going before your unexpected success as Lemony Snicket? Were you ever tempted to throw in the towel as a writer?

I was sorely tempted but could not think up anything else to do. This is how it is for most writers I know - they soldiered on simply because there was no Plan B.

Preferred bourbon?

Maker's Mark. There are some fancy ones that are better, but I assume you're not asking "In the afterlife, what will be served?" but "What's the bourbon you have around the house at all times, so that you might make a Manhattan at a moment's notice?" and the answer is "Maker's Mark," or, as my son says, "the bourbon that looks like a candle."

Who's more fun at parties, Lemony or Daniel?

Mr. Snicket would be invited to more interesting parties - something in a lighthouse with a lot of cloak-and-dagger - but I'm better at making cocktails from whatever's available and suggesting parlor games when things get slow.

You've written very eloquently about the weirdness of suddenly having quite a lot of money. Has it changed your relationship to your fiction? Is it kind of amazing to now have things like making up your own symphony be an option?

It's changed my relationship to fiction in that when I used to visit bookstores I had to limit the amount of fiction I bought to what I could afford. Now I limit it to how much I can carry. (It is indeed amazing to work with a symphony orchestra, but that has less to do with money. The composer with whom I worked on The Composer Is Dead is probably the brokest person I know.)

Some books you've read lately that pleased you?

Peter Rock's My Abandonment, Alain Fournier's The Lost Estate, Chelsey Minnis's Poemland, rereading Mary Robison's Why Did I Ever for the umpteenth time.

How's the pirate novel coming?

It was just rejected by a publisher, basically for being too dark. Funny how life goes.

Rick Daley said...

Thanks for the interview. As a non-published writer with works-in-progress for kids and grown-ups* I found it quite encouraging.

*I would say adults, but that makes it seem dirty somehow.

January 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Alyson Greene said...

Um, a pirate novel written by Lemony Snicket-ehem- I mean, Mr. Handler. Can I get in line to buy that now? The publishing industry must b crazy if no ones buying that.

January 28, 2010 8:39 AM
Carolyn said...

what a fun and lovely interview! I love a good pirate novel so I wish you the best in selling the story.

January 28, 2010 8:59 AM
Lydia Sharp said...

This interview is AWESOME on so many levels.

January 28, 2010 9:35 AM
maine character said...

I read author interviews every day during lunch, and this is one of the most entertaining and candid I’ve found.

I never knew who wrote those Lemony Snicket books my nephew loved, but now I do, and where I can get mine.

January 28, 2010 9:36 AM
Kate F. said...

Oh man, if you've skipped "The Composer is Dead" because it's a picture book run out and buy it now. HILARIOUS and brilliant. Anyone who has ever played in an orchestra will get a huge kick out of it. ("Oh, I forgot the violas!" "Everyone always forgets us...")

Peter and the Wolf is great, but it's lovely to have a new way to introduce kids to the instruments of a symphony orchestra.

January 28, 2010 9:49 AM
Lucy Woodhull said...

I am in love with Mr. Snicket, but I now see I must cheat on him with Mr. Handler. I propose some sort of "Big Love"-style arrangement, as I am currently married as well. Polygamy goes swimmingly with both cloak and dagger antics and bourbon I find.

January 28, 2010 10:29 AM
school_of_tyrannus said...

I LOVE YOU Mr. Handler. You're brilliant.

January 28, 2010 10:57 AM
Melinda Szymanik said...

It is both encouraging and depressing at the same time knowing Mr Handler's first book made it to publication after 37 rejections. And having a pirate book rejected now? If people with his track record can't get past the first hurdle????

Thanks for an excellent interview!

January 28, 2010 11:11 AM
Wendy said...

Oh, Mr. Handler. I am a fan. "Zebra" always brings a little smile to my face.

January 28, 2010 11:53 AM
Sophie said...

Love hearing from published writers. Thank you Rejectionist.

January 28, 2010 12:11 PM
myimaginaryblog said...

My 9-year-old daughter made it 9 books in to the Snicket series--at least that's the number I just counted in the stack on our shelf--and even then she confessed that she was still hoping against hope that at some point there would finally be a happy ending for the poor orphans.

Those questions of how best to give away one's money are tough ones. My husband and I were deciding what we could give for Haiti relief and I asked, "If we had tens of millions, would we still give the same fraction of our savings?" He agreed that those decisions would be harder the more money we had: Do you put it into a foundation or a trust so it continues to grow? Give most of it to one good cause at the risk of having nothing left for the even greater need that arises the next week?

I'll have to keep those potential difficulties in mind as a defense against any impulse to become a bestselling children's book author.

January 28, 2010 12:56 PM
nathaliemvondo said...

Yay! *Dancing in the campus library!*
You guys just made my day! Thanks for a wonderful interview; I need to read Adverbs. :)

January 28, 2010 1:08 PM
myimaginaryblog said...

P.S. Assuming I found the same site he used to determine wealth rankings, and assuming the rankings haven't changed much since 2007, I have a pretty good idea what Mr. Handler gave to his charity of choice.

(I should get some sort of cyber-stalking award--perhaps for "Randomest Stalking.")

January 28, 2010 1:13 PM
Loretta Ross said...

That was an awesome interview! I'm going to have to track down some of his other books now. (AKA besides the Lemony Snicket series).

Myimaginaryblog, I am in awe of your cyber-stalking abilities!

*IF* I were to ever get rich, I already have a list of projects I'd like to support. No-kill animal shelters for my county and the next one over, a battered women's shelter, and I'd like to buy shiny new fire trucks for the Tightwad Volunteer Fire Department and get them to paint TVFD 51 on the side. (G) Even though there're only two stations, though two is pretty impressive, I think, for a town with a population of 62. ;)

January 28, 2010 1:29 PM
Ink said...

I totally need me a Snicketish name. Then I will rule the world.

Anyone have suggestions?

January 29, 2010 4:48 AM
Ieva Melgalve said...

My son adores Lemony Snickett. I must admit though that, had I read the books beforehand, I wouldn't have given them to him (my excuse is that he's 7). Now, it's too late, he's already hooked. And adapting the grim expression pretty successfully in everyday life. :)

January 29, 2010 5:41 AM
CKHB said...

Ah, the ever-changing line of what's "too dark." This reminds me of an interview I read with the creators of South Park: when the show was syndicated, they went back to the first season, thinking they'd have to edit the hell out of it for the new audience... and realized that what was mind-blowingly shocking in 1997 was no big deal 2005, and they had hardly any work to do at all.

January 29, 2010 6:40 AM
lora96 said...

WOOT! I checked the blog and saw the title for today's post and yelled out: Holy Shit! It's Lemony Snicket!

I maintain that The End was one of the most elegantly plotted and executed books I have read of any genre!

Also loved the playful, snarky, sad Adverbs. Did not think The Basic Eight was too dark, either, fyi.

*Fangirl squeak*

January 29, 2010 3:33 PM
Kimberly Kincaid said...

Oh, you had me at Maker's Mark. Really. The pirate novel and the quote in response to being rejected 37 times just put me over the edge into *oblivion*

Big literary crush. So big.

Great interview- thank you Le R :)

January 30, 2010 10:59 AM
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